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		<title>By: Maryann</title>
		<link>http://912dc.org/getting-here/list-of-buses-coming-to-dc/comment-page-6/#comment-25198</link>
		<dc:creator>Maryann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi   hope you get this.   Did you hear about the march on Congress for this Thursday Nov 5 2009.  Mark Levine and Jon Voight will be there.  It was on the Rush Limbaugh show today.  It is for people to show up and stare the Congress down.  One senator, whom I don&#039;t recall her name...right now said at this point she believes this will be the only thing that will stop the bill from passing for the health care.  I am hoping someone will organize a trip to DC and I can&#039;t hop on board.  I don&#039;t have the organizational skills anymore, but will help any way I can.  I know people will want to go once they hear about it.  It is close, but we are to meet on the steps of the Capital and fill the halls then and I know tons will come.    Please blog about a trip and I will be there!!!!   Thanks.    Maryann   NMYRTLEBEACH SC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi   hope you get this.   Did you hear about the march on Congress for this Thursday Nov 5 2009.  Mark Levine and Jon Voight will be there.  It was on the Rush Limbaugh show today.  It is for people to show up and stare the Congress down.  One senator, whom I don&#8217;t recall her name&#8230;right now said at this point she believes this will be the only thing that will stop the bill from passing for the health care.  I am hoping someone will organize a trip to DC and I can&#8217;t hop on board.  I don&#8217;t have the organizational skills anymore, but will help any way I can.  I know people will want to go once they hear about it.  It is close, but we are to meet on the steps of the Capital and fill the halls then and I know tons will come.    Please blog about a trip and I will be there!!!!   Thanks.    Maryann   NMYRTLEBEACH SC</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:10 AM 
Subject: Washington DC


Hello Friends,
 
We traveled by bus to Washington DC for the Saturday rally. We left on Friday night at 10pm and returned Sunday morning at 4:30am. 
 
Saturday morning our bus dropped us off at a train station where we boarded the orange line and rode for 30 minutes to Freedom Plaza.
 
The time was around 9:30am, the weather was warm and the crowd was awesome.
 
The 9-12 DC March began early due to the large crowd. We started our historic walk down Pennsylvania Avenue with the Capitol Building as our distant goal. To see the Capitol Building as our final destination was absolutely inspiring. To watch my fellow patriots, walking with pride holding their signs was humbling. 
 
I saw babies pushed in strollers, elderly pushed in wheelchairs, young children, teenagers, young adults, and fellow seniors. We were there with one common thread holding us together, our love for America. We hugged, we cried, we sang, and we cheered for our purpose, we were there to support each other, to give each other the courage to continue our movement to get our country back. 
 
We were orderly, polite, kind and considerate. We were America at her best. I was extremely proud of my fellow citizens and of my country. 
 
I thought of the men and women that have died to give us the right to protest, the right of freedom of speech, and I cried. Thank God for them and thank God for America.
 
When the event was coming to a close we promised each other we will continue our efforts to get our country back, and we will.
 
I was in Washington for my children, my grandchildren, myself and for my friends. 
 
May God bless you, and may God bless America.
 
C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:10 AM<br />
Subject: Washington DC</p>
<p>Hello Friends,</p>
<p>We traveled by bus to Washington DC for the Saturday rally. We left on Friday night at 10pm and returned Sunday morning at 4:30am. </p>
<p>Saturday morning our bus dropped us off at a train station where we boarded the orange line and rode for 30 minutes to Freedom Plaza.</p>
<p>The time was around 9:30am, the weather was warm and the crowd was awesome.</p>
<p>The 9-12 DC March began early due to the large crowd. We started our historic walk down Pennsylvania Avenue with the Capitol Building as our distant goal. To see the Capitol Building as our final destination was absolutely inspiring. To watch my fellow patriots, walking with pride holding their signs was humbling. </p>
<p>I saw babies pushed in strollers, elderly pushed in wheelchairs, young children, teenagers, young adults, and fellow seniors. We were there with one common thread holding us together, our love for America. We hugged, we cried, we sang, and we cheered for our purpose, we were there to support each other, to give each other the courage to continue our movement to get our country back. </p>
<p>We were orderly, polite, kind and considerate. We were America at her best. I was extremely proud of my fellow citizens and of my country. </p>
<p>I thought of the men and women that have died to give us the right to protest, the right of freedom of speech, and I cried. Thank God for them and thank God for America.</p>
<p>When the event was coming to a close we promised each other we will continue our efforts to get our country back, and we will.</p>
<p>I was in Washington for my children, my grandchildren, myself and for my friends. </p>
<p>May God bless you, and may God bless America.</p>
<p>C</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to ask if it would be possible to collect how many buses from each location and how many were on each bus.
This could give an idea how many came to the event (by bus).
Of course it doesn&#039;t include those by planes, trains and automobiles, but this could be of interest.

I happen to know we had 12 buses with 54 people in each coming from the Bel Air, MD area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to ask if it would be possible to collect how many buses from each location and how many were on each bus.<br />
This could give an idea how many came to the event (by bus).<br />
Of course it doesn&#8217;t include those by planes, trains and automobiles, but this could be of interest.</p>
<p>I happen to know we had 12 buses with 54 people in each coming from the Bel Air, MD area.</p>
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		<title>By: Carpet Bagger</title>
		<link>http://912dc.org/getting-here/list-of-buses-coming-to-dc/comment-page-5/#comment-16221</link>
		<dc:creator>Carpet Bagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lies.


Sarah Palin is off working on her memoirs somewhere, so she wasn’t in the audience Wednesday to hear President Barack Obama call her a liar.

Palin is the most prominent politician to have promoted the idea that Obama wants to create some sort of Third Reich-style medical bureaucracy that would decide whether the disabled and the elderly deserve to live, or just have their health care terminated.

“Death panels,” Palin called them, in one of the most calculated, incendiary falsehoods of the entire health-care debate. It embarrassed even some of her fellow right wingers.

But it served its purpose, scaring the living daylights out of older voters and churning up so much anxiety over the summer that Obama was forced to address it in his speech to Congress this week.

The death panels rumour, said Obama, “would be laughable if it weren’t so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple.”

In the same speech, though, Obama cited a few uniquely American anecdotes not too far from just the sort of thing Palin and her cohort are predicting:

* An Illinois man whose health insurance was cut off in the middle of chemotherapy because an enterprising researcher at the insurance company discovered he hadn’t reported gallstones he didn’t even know he had. With his treatment cut off, he proceeded to die.
* A Texas woman who was about to undergo a double mastectomy when her health insurer cut her off, citing an unreported case of acne earlier in her life. By the time she got the decision reversed, said Obama, her breast cancer had more than doubled in size.

These are common stories here, reported in the media just about every day.

* The Los Angeles woman with lupus, fluid in the heart and pancreatic cancer who was cut off health coverage because of unreported earlier back pain (which she says isn’t even true).

And of course, it doesn’t have to be true. Or even remotely related to your illness. It just has to be in your doctor’s notes, or hinted at in your doctor’s notes, even if your doctor didn’t tell you about it.

The moment the insurance company finds it, bang! Your treatment is cut off. And the insurers really start looking for excuses once you get sick and start submitting costly claims (one insurer, Health Net, has actually admitted paying bonuses to employees who dig up reasons to maroon sick clients).

If your treatment is life-preserving, like chemotherapy, and you can’t find some other way to pay, you die.

The industry term for cancelling a policy on some sort of technical grounds is “rescission,” and it is probably the most odious practice of an industry known for some pretty predatory behaviour.

Now, imagine for a moment what the reaction would be if federal or state governments started directing public servants to comb medical histories for the slightest excuse to cut off life-saving care. (It’s not well understood abroad, and sometimes not very well understood here, but the American government is already in the health-insurance business, big time. Medicare pays health-care bills for senior citizens, and Medicaid, the state-run programs, pay to treat the indigent).

The answer is obvious. It would be called what it is: Brutal, near-criminal, disgusting, inhuman behaviour. Maybe even death panels. And it wouldn’t last long once the public found out.

The curious thing is, when private companies do it, companies whose profit motive is diametrically opposed to the well-being of their clients, the American public remains relatively supine.

This sort of thing has been going on here for years, and while the horror stories are denounced regularly by liberal activists and routinely retailed by Democrats in stump speeches, it seems to be regarded by the public at large as just business. As in: “Well, they do have shareholders to answer to.”

In the minds of many here, business is good for America, and whatever business has to do to make money is good for America, too.

Certainly you don’t hear much about health insurance rescission from Sarah Palin, or Senator Jim DeMint, or the Christian conservative leaders who are now mobilizing against Obama’s plan. They have various motives. Palin wants to be president. The evangelicals believe Obama’s plan will lead to publicly financed abortion. Others, like DeMint, have stated flatly they simply want Obama to fail.

But where great swathes of the public are concerned, the antipathy to publicly funded medicine is something else. Clearly, a lot of people here fear any plan run by their own government more than that of the most venal insurance company.

It’s partly the innate distrust of government itself among conservative Americans, and it’s partly the widespread American self-image as a nation of rugged individualists who scorn public handouts, as delusional as that may be (see earlier reference to Medicare and Medicaid, not to mention the ocean of public subsidies that flow from Washington).

Obama himself has been talking about a woman who sent him a letter containing a stern admonition: “‘I don’t want government-run health care. I don’t want you meddling in the private marketplace. And keep your hands off my Medicare.’”

“True story,” says Obama, when he tells it.

And sort of pathetic, given the stakes of what’s going on here.

The fact is, there is so little understanding of what really exists here now and what is actually being proposed that for Palin and her cohort, working against Obama’s plan amounts to picking low-hanging fruit.

After Obama’s speech, the Washington Post quoted a middle-aged woman sitting in the waiting room of a local hospital.

The speech, she said, sent her blood pressure up: “For every story he tells about somebody that doesn’t have insurance, there’s one you can tell about somebody who wouldn’t get treatment because the government wouldn’t allow it.”

Well, as somebody who lived for 40 years in a country that has one of the most strictly public health systems in the world, I know all about the shortcomings of government-funded medicine. But in all those years, I never saw anything like what the insurance companies here are capable of.

To borrow one of Palin’s attack phrases: “Downright evil.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lies.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin is off working on her memoirs somewhere, so she wasn’t in the audience Wednesday to hear President Barack Obama call her a liar.</p>
<p>Palin is the most prominent politician to have promoted the idea that Obama wants to create some sort of Third Reich-style medical bureaucracy that would decide whether the disabled and the elderly deserve to live, or just have their health care terminated.</p>
<p>“Death panels,” Palin called them, in one of the most calculated, incendiary falsehoods of the entire health-care debate. It embarrassed even some of her fellow right wingers.</p>
<p>But it served its purpose, scaring the living daylights out of older voters and churning up so much anxiety over the summer that Obama was forced to address it in his speech to Congress this week.</p>
<p>The death panels rumour, said Obama, “would be laughable if it weren’t so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple.”</p>
<p>In the same speech, though, Obama cited a few uniquely American anecdotes not too far from just the sort of thing Palin and her cohort are predicting:</p>
<p>* An Illinois man whose health insurance was cut off in the middle of chemotherapy because an enterprising researcher at the insurance company discovered he hadn’t reported gallstones he didn’t even know he had. With his treatment cut off, he proceeded to die.<br />
* A Texas woman who was about to undergo a double mastectomy when her health insurer cut her off, citing an unreported case of acne earlier in her life. By the time she got the decision reversed, said Obama, her breast cancer had more than doubled in size.</p>
<p>These are common stories here, reported in the media just about every day.</p>
<p>* The Los Angeles woman with lupus, fluid in the heart and pancreatic cancer who was cut off health coverage because of unreported earlier back pain (which she says isn’t even true).</p>
<p>And of course, it doesn’t have to be true. Or even remotely related to your illness. It just has to be in your doctor’s notes, or hinted at in your doctor’s notes, even if your doctor didn’t tell you about it.</p>
<p>The moment the insurance company finds it, bang! Your treatment is cut off. And the insurers really start looking for excuses once you get sick and start submitting costly claims (one insurer, Health Net, has actually admitted paying bonuses to employees who dig up reasons to maroon sick clients).</p>
<p>If your treatment is life-preserving, like chemotherapy, and you can’t find some other way to pay, you die.</p>
<p>The industry term for cancelling a policy on some sort of technical grounds is “rescission,” and it is probably the most odious practice of an industry known for some pretty predatory behaviour.</p>
<p>Now, imagine for a moment what the reaction would be if federal or state governments started directing public servants to comb medical histories for the slightest excuse to cut off life-saving care. (It’s not well understood abroad, and sometimes not very well understood here, but the American government is already in the health-insurance business, big time. Medicare pays health-care bills for senior citizens, and Medicaid, the state-run programs, pay to treat the indigent).</p>
<p>The answer is obvious. It would be called what it is: Brutal, near-criminal, disgusting, inhuman behaviour. Maybe even death panels. And it wouldn’t last long once the public found out.</p>
<p>The curious thing is, when private companies do it, companies whose profit motive is diametrically opposed to the well-being of their clients, the American public remains relatively supine.</p>
<p>This sort of thing has been going on here for years, and while the horror stories are denounced regularly by liberal activists and routinely retailed by Democrats in stump speeches, it seems to be regarded by the public at large as just business. As in: “Well, they do have shareholders to answer to.”</p>
<p>In the minds of many here, business is good for America, and whatever business has to do to make money is good for America, too.</p>
<p>Certainly you don’t hear much about health insurance rescission from Sarah Palin, or Senator Jim DeMint, or the Christian conservative leaders who are now mobilizing against Obama’s plan. They have various motives. Palin wants to be president. The evangelicals believe Obama’s plan will lead to publicly financed abortion. Others, like DeMint, have stated flatly they simply want Obama to fail.</p>
<p>But where great swathes of the public are concerned, the antipathy to publicly funded medicine is something else. Clearly, a lot of people here fear any plan run by their own government more than that of the most venal insurance company.</p>
<p>It’s partly the innate distrust of government itself among conservative Americans, and it’s partly the widespread American self-image as a nation of rugged individualists who scorn public handouts, as delusional as that may be (see earlier reference to Medicare and Medicaid, not to mention the ocean of public subsidies that flow from Washington).</p>
<p>Obama himself has been talking about a woman who sent him a letter containing a stern admonition: “‘I don’t want government-run health care. I don’t want you meddling in the private marketplace. And keep your hands off my Medicare.’”</p>
<p>“True story,” says Obama, when he tells it.</p>
<p>And sort of pathetic, given the stakes of what’s going on here.</p>
<p>The fact is, there is so little understanding of what really exists here now and what is actually being proposed that for Palin and her cohort, working against Obama’s plan amounts to picking low-hanging fruit.</p>
<p>After Obama’s speech, the Washington Post quoted a middle-aged woman sitting in the waiting room of a local hospital.</p>
<p>The speech, she said, sent her blood pressure up: “For every story he tells about somebody that doesn’t have insurance, there’s one you can tell about somebody who wouldn’t get treatment because the government wouldn’t allow it.”</p>
<p>Well, as somebody who lived for 40 years in a country that has one of the most strictly public health systems in the world, I know all about the shortcomings of government-funded medicine. But in all those years, I never saw anything like what the insurance companies here are capable of.</p>
<p>To borrow one of Palin’s attack phrases: “Downright evil.”</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene</title>
		<link>http://912dc.org/getting-here/list-of-buses-coming-to-dc/comment-page-5/#comment-16211</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christian, You are so wrong about Canada&#039;s Health care---I have family there and they have many problems receiving or even seeing Doctors. An Aunt of mine had to wait six months to be seen, once she finally was--found cancer.was told there was nothing to do for it. She came to the U.S and received great treatment and after 7 years doing well. I guess  Britian doesn&#039;t have dental care-have you notice how bad their teeth are along with every other country?  Pray tell, how would you keep what you have if employers cancel and now your forced into goverment healthcare? How is that a choice? Did you ever wonder why your not entitled to the same Healthcare the politicians receive ? Mind you, they have 10 to choose from!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian, You are so wrong about Canada&#8217;s Health care&#8212;I have family there and they have many problems receiving or even seeing Doctors. An Aunt of mine had to wait six months to be seen, once she finally was&#8211;found cancer.was told there was nothing to do for it. She came to the U.S and received great treatment and after 7 years doing well. I guess  Britian doesn&#8217;t have dental care-have you notice how bad their teeth are along with every other country?  Pray tell, how would you keep what you have if employers cancel and now your forced into goverment healthcare? How is that a choice? Did you ever wonder why your not entitled to the same Healthcare the politicians receive ? Mind you, they have 10 to choose from!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!!!!! That was incredible...We are going to wi n this  country back!!!! If you couldn&#039;t make it you need to go to the next one if we have another. Gota&#039; go I have an 8 am tee time, but I&#039;ll be reading responses amd posting many more later. I&#039;m Pumped!!!! Lookout losers and other useless idiots, you&#039;re lives are going to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!!!!! That was incredible&#8230;We are going to wi n this  country back!!!! If you couldn&#8217;t make it you need to go to the next one if we have another. Gota&#8217; go I have an 8 am tee time, but I&#8217;ll be reading responses amd posting many more later. I&#8217;m Pumped!!!! Lookout losers and other useless idiots, you&#8217;re lives are going to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guess I was on to long----will finish---Congressman Joe Wilson(R) has apologe twice to Pres. Obama for yelling out, Now the Democratic  are calling for another apology on the House floor. I remember Bush getting a ton of the same thing-- never did anyone apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guess I was on to long&#8212;-will finish&#8212;Congressman Joe Wilson(R) has apologe twice to Pres. Obama for yelling out, Now the Democratic  are calling for another apology on the House floor. I remember Bush getting a ton of the same thing&#8211; never did anyone apology.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Direct and to the point !!!    I&#039;m told I can keep my the Health Ins. I currently have. Why would my Employer pay the 80/20 when they can save money by dropping the thousands of employees and have them go on to Obamacare? I have worked for Forty-six years (still am) and always paid my way (I also resent the fact that I have to pay taxes on Capital Gains,I alone took the risk) Sorry I went off in a different direction. About 80% of people are happy with their Insurance,why the urgency for  passing something nobody understands? Why is it everytime goverment is told &quot;Let us have what you have&quot; you hear nothing-no responce at all ? Also. Congressman Joe Wilson apologe twice for saying&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Direct and to the point !!!    I&#8217;m told I can keep my the Health Ins. I currently have. Why would my Employer pay the 80/20 when they can save money by dropping the thousands of employees and have them go on to Obamacare? I have worked for Forty-six years (still am) and always paid my way (I also resent the fact that I have to pay taxes on Capital Gains,I alone took the risk) Sorry I went off in a different direction. About 80% of people are happy with their Insurance,why the urgency for  passing something nobody understands? Why is it everytime goverment is told &#8220;Let us have what you have&#8221; you hear nothing-no responce at all ? Also. Congressman Joe Wilson apologe twice for saying&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do &quot;illegal Immigrates&quot; receive SSI for 3 years. How can a non-citizen receive anything from a goverment they don&#039;t belong to and have never paid a dime in Taxes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do &#8220;illegal Immigrates&#8221; receive SSI for 3 years. How can a non-citizen receive anything from a goverment they don&#8217;t belong to and have never paid a dime in Taxes?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Ferrara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Ferrara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Castro like Obama so much?   He plans to empty out his hospitals this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Castro like Obama so much?   He plans to empty out his hospitals this time.</p>
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